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muzaradi : go to the top of the page

At this side you are right: we will live in piece and good-neighborliness in other side of Great Caucasus range. but you are not right when you speak that "Georgia is where the Georgians live." In this case 5 million ethnic Georgians live in Turkey, near the our borders and question: is this Georgia too?! more than 10 million Chinese are live in Russia and is this China?! You are wrong. I am not against you and your nation, unfortunately you can do nothing withought Russia. They give Ossetians everything in caucasus: a piece of our land, piece of Ingushia land, an alphabet, autonomy within Soviet Georgia and many more. That's why you have to be with Russia! But you have to remember: Georgians give more - Christianity, which is more than all of that. when you speak - История сама рассудит - you are right, but don't forget you have not right to falcify history. We have one saying: ტყუილს მოკლე ფეხები აქვს. it means that, everithing will be clear at all.

04.01.2011 , 09:03  
Ruslan Kuchity : go to the top of the page

Shota, I am not a young man and I don't live in Russia. Therefore unlike you I have a chance to watch the situation in Georgia and in Russia from a distance. As you probably know, it always gives you a better view. Со стороны виднее.  

Just want to remind you that Georgia is where the Georgians live. And the territory where Ossetians live is definitely Ossetia (точка), regardless what Georgians think.  

 

But I don't want to discuss with you the political issues any more. Nothing depends on us any ways. История сама рассудит. And you will see in a future how wrong you are now. 

I look forward to see the regular Ossetians and Georgians will live in piece and good-neighborliness.  

04.01.2011 , 02:12 [ E-mail ]
muzaradi : go to the top of the page

I think you don't understand main issue: you have your homeland in north of Caucasus range and that is all. The Georgians who are live in Vladikavkaz are ethnic Georgians and not by citizenship. It means that they agree rule and article of law your country. By the way, it means that they are thinking the same way as every resident of Russia.  

 

You don't know, that 1 000 000$ was offered to family of Nodar Qumaritashvili by Putin's regime to be naturalized a Russian citizen?! but they said NO! It means that they are thinking as every Georgian! And what if they are Ossetians by nationality?!  

 

You don't know main issue 2: Georgia is not a piece of land, it is IDEA, which is bigger, nicer, longer and stronger than Russia! We are building the ideal country and no one can hinder us! Your boss (Putin) knows, that such country near the south borders of Russia will destroy Russian federation and that is why he is madness!  

 

You don't know main issue 3: As I see in your website you don't know anything about Georgia. I hope after years you will not be as blind as today. We have olimpic champions in judo nowadays: Zurab Zviadauri, Irakli Tsirekidze, Manuchar Kvirkvelia etc. we have great national rugby and basketball team, national ballet dance team "Sukhishvilebi" and "Erisioni," who are well-known more than they were in USSR.  

 

I can speak about plural sights of Georgia, but it is not important at this moment. You have to know main issue 4: Наша дело благородное и мы победим!

03.01.2011 , 20:05  
Ruslan Kuchity : go to the top of the page

Shota, genatsvale.  

 

If I was a Georgian I would think the same way.  

But I am an Ossetian and my point of view is different. There are plenty of Ossetians live in Europe, America, Turkey, Russia and in Georgia. But for those who is Ossetian in soul (not by citizenship) there is only one Homeland in the world - Ossetia.  

 

If the territory which you contemptuously named "so called South Ossetia" has been occupied by Ossetians for several centuries it is definitely Ossetia, not Georgia. And nobody cares about the Machabeli - Zhordania's (in18-20th centuries) or Gamskhurdia-Saakashvili's present claims. You can claim Vladikavkaz with the same success - there are about 12 thousand ethnic Georgians live there. But will anybody take it seriously? No.  

 

Believe me, we have more freedom in Vladikavkaz and Tskhinval than you have in you Khashury.  

 

Returning back to the article, Shota Chochishvili became a first Soviet Olympic judo champion. Because he represented the Great country and the Great nation.  

I also remember Vakhtang Balavadze, Dito Shanidze, Levan Tedeashvily, Mikhail Meskhi, Murtaz Khurtsilava and hundreds of Georgian Soviet great champions. They all represented the country you hate so much now. The country you are so proud to be separated from. And they where like brothers for fellow Russian, Ossetian, Armenian, Ukrainian and many other athletes.  

 

Where are the great Georgian champions now? Where is Dinamo Tbilisi, a former European super club? Where are the famous movie stars, musical performers, dancers? 

It's all related.  

They all used to become popular through the Soviet sport, Soviet and Russian culture, advancing the Georgian culture through "Moscow" to the world stage. And Georgians were the most prosperous people within the former USSR.  

 

Nowadays, just few people in the world know where Georgia is.  

You are not part of a Great country and Great nation any more. You are a small fragment of a big shiny beautiful diamond which was crashed by Satan forces.  

 

Yes, you are formally independent (there couldn't be the independent countries with population of 4 mln. people, though). But what does this independence give you? Do the regular Georgians feel happier? Do you have better options to develop and advance Georgian culture and values? I doubted. Your independence is a bluff. You will do whatever Americans want you to do. Кто платит, тот и заказывает музыку. Nobody pays for just to hear "thank you". Then may be being a part of a still great neighboring country is better than to be a puppet (sorry, but this is true) of a superpower located at the other side of the globe?  

 

Political or administrative freedom and independence are very good tools the politicians are usually operating with. It doesn't necessary mean that they are as good for the regular people too. 

03.01.2011 , 01:49 [ E-mail ]
muzaradi : go to the top of the page

Yes I did. 

Stalin and Petre Bagrationi also were Georgians by nationality, but they were true Russians by statesman and by their mind. 

I have lot of friends and relatives too who are ethnic Ossetians, but no one of them thinks that Tskhinvali is the independent country. So did Shota (my name is Shota too) Chochishvili and Nodar Qumaritashvili too. My friends and relatives were lived in Tskhhinvali region and were divorced from their homeland by Russians. They confided their sorow to me, ewerything what had happed in August 2008. It is clear that Russians enterd in Georgia and We only answered them. Sure, we lost a part of our country (Tskhinvali region and Abkhazia), but you lost more, freedom! But I hope that it is not forever! We have great Ossetians who thinks like Shota Chochishvili and Nodar Qumaritashvili! 

They have one homeland - Georgia!

02.01.2011 , 22:25  
Ruslan Kuchity : go to the top of the page

Did Georgian army need help to evacuate them from Gori?  

If you mean that Shota helped regular people in August 2008 then that is normal for any Christian man. Many Ossetians were harboring peaceful Ingush families during the Ingush-Ossetian war. We don't consider it as a betrayal. I don't think he supported Saakashvili's anty-Ossetian policy. 

Shota, unlikely some other famous Georgian Ossetians, never hid the fact he is Ossetian. He spoke Ossetian and kept in touch with relatives in Ossetia. If his son looks at the things in a different way, it is his right.  

But Sh.Chochishvili's ethnic background doesn't do anything with his Georgian citizenship. Officially he was Georgian, represented this country and the former USSR as well.  

By the way, do you know that the poor Georgian athlete Nodar Kumaritashvili who died in a horrible accident on the opening day of the last winter Olympics was ethnic Ossetian too?

02.01.2011 , 20:35 [ E-mail ]
muzaradi : go to the top of the page

Ruslan Kuchity  

Sure. He and his son were helped Georgian army to evacuate from town Gori, when Russians invaded. Shota was friend of my father and I know maybe everything about him.

02.01.2011 , 17:00  
Ruslan Kuchity : go to the top of the page

muzaradi,  

Can you tell us how did Shota support Georgian army in 2008?  

Because I heard opposite.

31.12.2010 , 06:18 [ E-mail ]
muzaradi : don´t belive go to the top of the page

Shota Chochishvili was Georgian, he lived in Georgia and died in Georgia in 2009. Shota was resident of town Gori, and in 2008 when Russian and barbarian "Ossetians" attaked Georgia, he supported Georgian army!

30.12.2010 , 21:59  
 
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